武林大会leeporter says it all

武林大会 had ended. it was a like-have, like-never-have meeting where most of the opp clans chiefies met to discuss about how to overthrow the leegime. in another simple words: TALKING ROTS and ranting about it. sigh! what they thought they knew that the peasants didn't know better? rots and rats to them all!!

one leeporter summarised his view about this 武林大会. say to sad, i can't agree more with him :(
Dec 27, 2010

Opposition has no excuse not to do better at GE
In its favour: Electoral and societal changes, more qualified recruits
By Kor Kian Beng

THERE I was, seated in one corner of a hotel ballroom two weeks ago, watching six opposition leaders doing their best to prove that their parties have what it takes to do well in the next general election.

They fielded questions and presented their parties' positions on a wide range of issues, from housing prices, income inequality and national service, to civil liberties, the Internal Security Act, the role of the mainstream media and defamation laws.

They took jibes at the ruling People's Action Party (PAP) over some government policies and for not responding to an invitation to send a representative to the dialogue itself, which was organised by sociopolitical website The Online Citizen.

Most of the 350-strong audience lapped it all up. The atmosphere was much like that at an opposition rally during a general election.

At the end of the 21/2-hour event, there were smiles, handshakes, high fives, pats on the back, and words of praise for the six panellists.

When I asked opposition veteran Chiam See Tong after the event for his view on how it went, he declared: 'The winds of change are here. People are fed up with the PAP.'

Looking and sounding confident too, when approached, were his fellow opposition leaders: Dr Chee Soon Juan of the Singapore Democratic Party; Mr Kenneth Jeyaretnam of the Reform Party; Mr Chia Ti Lik of the Socialist Front; Mr Goh Meng Seng of the National Solidarity Party; and Mr Gerald Giam of the Workers' Party.

There are a number of possible reasons for the sense of optimism among the opposition about its chances at the next polls - due by February 2012 but widely predicted to be held by June next year.

First, high property prices and a surge in foreigner numbers have caused dissatisfaction among Singaporeans, and are issues ripe for opposition exploitation.

Second, electoral changes in the form of more single-member constituencies and smaller group representation constituencies will lower entry barriers for the opposition in terms of campaign costs and resources.

Third, the opposition has a number of new recruits who are well-qualified professionals. They include the Reform Party's Mr Jeyaretnam, Mr Tony Tan and Ms Hazel Poa, the Singapore Democratic Party's Dr Vincent Wijeysingha, and Workers' Party's Mr Giam and postgraduate law student Pritam Singh.

Fourth, the lure of HDB upgrading as an electoral carrot has faded. When the PAP dangled this in the two opposition wards of Hougang and Potong Pasir in 2006, the tactic backfired.

Fifth, the electorate that the opposition has to woo is arguably better-disposed towards them. Half of the 2.31 million voters next year would have been born after 1965, as opposed to one-third in 2006. Although the PAP believed that post-65ers supported it during the last general election, there are also perceptions that this generation might be more open to voting for the opposition. This is because this generation would not have experienced first-hand how the PAP Government led the country through the struggles of the 1950s and 1960s and are viewed as having less attachment and loyalty to the ruling party.

Sixth, with an increasingly more tech-savvy population, the reach of the Internet would have become more pervasive than it was during the 2006 polls. The Internet not only gives the opposition parties their own channels to reach out to voters, but also provides an avenue for Singaporeans to seek more alternative viewpoints.

Lastly, the key opposition parties appear to be more at ease in working with one another and presenting a more united front to the voters and to fight the PAP.

One telling sign was the dialogue two Thursdays ago, which saw five opposition parties, except the Workers' Party, rolling out their top leaders to attend the event, with Mr Chiam's presence making the strongest statement.

The opposition patriarch, who rarely skips his Meet-the-People sessions on Thursday evenings, not even when he was recovering from a mild stroke in early 2008, made an exception two weeks go to join his fellow opposition leaders at the dialogue, where they interacted like war comrades, posed together for photographs, and hardly disagreed with one another in their replies to the audience.

Sources say negotiations are under way to strike new alliances among the opposition parties before the next general election.

If the proposed alliance pans out and coupled with the factors above, it can mean only one thing: The opposition has no excuse not to do better at the next polls.

To some, the test would be whether the opposition snags at least one GRC, or at the very least adds more single-seat wards to the existing two in Hougang and Potong Pasir.

To be sure, the opposition may yet fail to deliver, judging from its past record. It is one thing to look promising but another to garner more than 50 per cent of the votes necessary to send a candidate into Parliament.

The opposition's chances in the coming general election are probably as good as it will get. The parties must step up candidate recruitment and produce well-researched alternative policy proposals to offer in their election manifestos.

The opposition will have only itself to blame if it fails again to deliver the goods, especially if its failure stems from infighting. There is a limit to voters' patience.

kianbeng@sph.com.sg

Face To Face: An awkward family reunion

Face To Face: An awkward family reunion


read more from the CLUELESS NIGHT OF WU-LIN MEETING

like got said; like got never said....

gathering of the wu-lin chiefies


hiding a deadly secret weapon behind each back?

TOC Face to Face Forum LIVE UPDATE
Posted: 16 Dec 2010 03:43 AM PST
7:45pm Nearly full house. Forum starting soon!

7:48pm Panelists arrive!

8:00pm Stephen from Pasir Ris Punggol GRC. On HDB – SDP would like to privatize the building of public housing. Do you consider your way of providing for funding for it?

Goh Meng Seng :Govt has become the number landlord. Not feasible to privatize the use of land. If it had started in 1965, then yes, it is feasible, but not now.

Chee Soon Juan: Not correct to say SDP wants to privatize public housing. But to ensure HDB remains a zero profit venture. Need to get HDB to be transparent in all its transactions. First step is to get Govt to reveal the true cost of building HDB flat.

Kenneth Jeyaretnam: Conflict of interest between HDB and SLA. Ridiculous to speak of a ‘market’ as HDB prices is set by Govt. HDB should go back to being supplier of cheap affordable housing to the lower 30% of income strata. Also provide better choice for rest of population. Increase the supply of land to allow for greater amount of housing to be built.

Question to Chiam See Tong– Raymond Athony Fernardo husband of woman with schizophrenia. Difficult to get support. Caregiver also fall into depression. Why is it so difficult to get Parliament to talk about support of people with mental illness.

Chiam See Tong: PAP don’t like problems of people with mental disabilities.

Raymond: But I thought PM Lee says he wants to make Singapore a home for all Singaporeans?

Chiam: He says a lot of things. (audience applause) PAP credibility is down the drain.

SMU Grad Alvin to Gerald Giam. Income inequality lots of driving forces behind. What is WP’s policies to mitigate?

Gerald Giam: Focus on helping those in the lower income groups. Workfare supplement currently too little. Average $80 per month. Hardly enough. WP to propose to raise Workfare quantum. Most important though is to reduce the inflow of foreign workers especially for lower income jobs.

Patrick Lee political observer to Dr Chee. What is opposition’s plan for the next five years in economics?

Chee Soon Juan: Top 10 percent of income earners grown. But bottom 10 percent hardly moved. But very high GDP. So where is this money coming from? If continue on this trend the social friction will worsen.

SMU Grad Alvin to Gerald Giam. Income inequality lots of driving forces behind. What is WP’s policies to mitigate?

Gerald Giam: Focus on helping those in the lower income groups. Workfare supplement currently too little.

New Asia Republic’s Donaldson to Kenneth Jeyaratnam: PAP policies on entrepreneurship, raising retirement age etc… what policy direction is the PAP pointing to? What is Reform Party’s policy?

KJ: Focus on productivity. Singapore has one of the lowest productivity in the world. All our GDP growth has been fueled by growing workforce. PAP paying only lip service to productivity growth which is the source of high income and higher value industries.

GENERAL QUESTION

a) Problem is not system. But the people in the system. People in the civil service are not in tune with the people on the ground. What are your solutions to this problem when majority of policy makers do not know what the people are thinking?

Everybody says HDB price is too high. But what is opposition going to do about HDB prices? They’re stuck. If lower prices, home owners are going to scream. If keep it the same new buyers are going to be unhappy.

Chia Ti Lik (Socialist Front)

a) Problem of disconnected policy makers - Give the ruling party a black eye in this coming GE. PAP has stayed in power for too long. They’ve created an elite admin service with super high pay. These elites no longer see themselves as having to push for something for the benefit of the people. What we see is a reflection of group think and accumulation of 40 years of uninterrupted rule.

b) HDB Prices – Land is 100% controlled by the Govt. They’ve created asset appreciation policies. This money from the people went into Govt coffers and is used to spearhead their investment overseas. We do not have an accountable system where there’s transparency and fruits shared from investment with the people. The high prices sadly may have to remain because Singaporeans have already committed to those properties. And it would be irresponsible to change that. But we’re committed to socialist policies. The old HDB prcies can remain. But the new ones can go on a lower price scales.

Goh Meng Seng

a) Problem of disconnected policy makers – Send strong signal to the Government. By voting for opposition.

b) With regards to HDB – The high prices is not a problem created by us, it’s by the PAP. There are actually two segments of flats in HDB. New flat and resale. New flat PAP has full control. Discard the idea that HDB is investment. It is not. It is a home.

Chee Soon Juan

On HDB – The biggest thing an elected opposition MP can do is make Minister of National Development open the book and reveal cost of HDB flat. Also make them account for where our reserves come from. How much came from HDB sales? Get them to open the books, and then let’s talk. With this information, I’m sure we can find smart people who can come up with the solutions. But we need the information first. Our biggest battle is not PAP but what PAP has done to our minds.

On policy markers being out of touch – they live in world of their own. They don’t live in HDB flats. The solution is to vote the opposition for a voice in the system.

Chiam See Tong

On HDB – PAP is making lots of profits. Not true there’s subsidies in housing. The government is making lots of money from housing.

On policy makers being out of touch – They started of as socialists now they are capitalists. Only advice I can give is vote for the opposition.

Kenneth Jeyaretnam

Disagrees that policies are on the right track. There’s enough money to fund a better social support system.

On HDB – If property prices crash, there will be serious consequences. Govt has vested interest in property prices rising. When RP is in power, has to be careful not to cause property prices to crash, while creating more affordable housing for lower income group.

Gerald Giam

On issue of HDB – Govt has not planned for influx of migrants. Solution is to increase supply. Housing loan should be reduced to twenty years or less, not 30 years. New flats are now pegged to resale flats. Solution – to peg price of new HDB flats to median income.

On complacency of Govt – PAP with its vast network knows what’s going on. It’s ignoring the feedback from the ground and persisting in the same policies.

New topic: Civil Liberties

Member of audience ‘Mr Chua’ worries that PAP does not has the same sense of patriotism as ordinary Singaporeans. Patriotism is most important issue in Singapore. Hopes that stay united, do not fight among yourselves.

Chia Ti Lik - Civil liberties have been curtailed. Even opposition have to contend in legalistic rulings. Civil liberties are a must for us to grow as a nation. A must to change this system and change the lives of the people in our country in the days to come. Should not be divorced from bread and butter issues. The only time when you see people rally together is during GE every five years. You don’t see that everyday, cos the ruling party doesn’t want you to know that so many of you are against them.

Human rights activist and lawyer M Ravi to Goh Meng Seng

Racial quota on HDB flats an example of discrimination against minorities. What is NSP’s stance on removing this kind of policies?

Goh Meng Seng

Race is a political construct. Tampines has 24% Malays. The result is highest number of Malay coffeeshops. Ethnic economics is good for minorities. As long as the concentration of minorities in an area is not more than 50% he can accept that.

Political detainee Michael Fernandez says in other countries, Government has offered compensation for people previously detained without trial. What does the opposition have to say?

the wu-lin meeting of the opp martials arts chiefies in local politics world was changed to QUALITY HOTEL. contradicting to the name of the hotel, the "quality" of the forum wasn't really there.

it was a night of LIKE GOT SAID, LIKE GOT NEVER SAID. clueless. that was what the whole affair was about. simply clueless!!

it was like a broken radio playing the same old weary tune. DOWN WITH HDB PRICES! OUT THE FT workers!! pay raise!! WHERE'S OUR MONEY?!! blah...blah...blah...

all those loud tiring rantings...everyone knew how to do it but who's there with the alternative or solution or even a whimsy solution or suggestion? NONE!

so if the opp clans were to rule peasantland, it would be from the frying pan into the fire. every peasants would get burnt to a crisp. then how?? :((

wu-lin meet at mt sophia

sigh! another crappy wu-lin orgy meeting. those kungfu jokers were really horny! this time their tryst would be at the holey hill of mt sophia. this was a nice rustic retro place which housed a small cinema called SINEMA (or die your mother si ni ma if pronouced in mandarin).

again, the same old martial arts jokers would be there. again, the same quibbling on the same tired issues till their cows come home with all the cowdungs. would there be a solution? don't think so :(

the kungfu masters such as chee ah juan - the usual man-whore attention seeker would just be there for more limelight robbery. wasn't his clan SDP being marked for demolition? now why didn't he highlight on this? since he was at that, maybe he could let the cat or his pussy out for the establishment of his subsidiary USD where pussy-in-pantyless la mui was residing. and waiting....if u know what i mean ;)

the joker wild card of the wu-lin orgy meet definitely had to go to SF represented by the other half of the ex-CONDOM HEROES chia sai. he would be speaking about his failed deadly kungfu of the crazy dragon deadly 18 blows and maybe also his KAMASUTRA deadly feat of kungfu combination with the other half of the condom hero, la mui.

if one would notice carefully, lamui appeared to be missing in this martial arts meet. awkardness for the risk of encountering ex-kungfu sparring partner chia sai? or avoiding the deadly darts shooting to her about her USD-cum-SDP strategic formation?

KJ, chiefy of RP had all along displayed displeasure to the clowning ninja activities from the SDP CLAN. he should be especially pissed off by chee ah juan who had messed up the good reputation of most of the other opp clans. for that matter, SPP where master chiam ruled would be absenting themselves from this meet in order to avoid clashes by auntie lina against chee. her silk hanky had left a undelectable mark on ah juan's blushed thick-skinned face.

another meeting, another orgasmic orgy....another kana sai time wasting, self-bragging limelight robbery. peasants attending this kungfu meet would have to climb the steep step to reach mt sophia's SINEMA. this place was very eerie at night with monstrous aged trees. peasants might risk life and limb especially SDP CLAN would be installing their ninja turtles that might waylay them and steal their wits, ie, hare-blains off their skulls. so beware of the SDP ninja turtles. keep your heads intact and make sure the hare-blains are still there after the night of another lame wu-lin orgy meet.

The Online Citizen will be holding a public forum as a lead-up to the next General Elections. Titled, “Face To Face”, the forum will see five opposition political parties taking questions from members of the public on various issues in a 21/2 hour Q&A session. (There will be no speeches from the panelists.)

We would like to invite you, as fellow bloggers, to the forum which is as follows:

Date: 16 December 2010
Time: 7pm to 10.30pm
Venue: Sinema Old School theatre, Mount Sophia

Panelists:
Dr Chee Soon Juan – Singapore Democratic Party
Mr Goh Meng Seng – National Solidarity Party
Mr Chia Ti Lik – Socialist Front
Mr Kenneth Jeyaretnam – Reform Party
Mr Gerald Giam – Workers’ Party

If you would like to attend the event, please RSVP by Saturday, 11 December 2010 so that we can make the necessary arrangements.

If it’s not too much trouble, we would also like to request your help in publicising the event on your blog, website, Facrbook or Twitter accounts.

Thank you.

Regards,
Andrew Loh
For: Chief Editor, TOC

saikong throwing ALL his last bet

saikong seng and all his fa - bao, red undies included, were all hurled into the next GE. if he loses, it's asala vista baby to him. but what if he wins? ah, then it shall be a different story. it could signal to be the rise of the GOH DYNASTY. wow!

this GE is gonna be very sexciting!

for now the oods are against ah seng due to his "over exposure" in the SHIT TIMES and other medias. day in, day out, peasants read about him. it would be good if there were constructive and chilvarious deeds displayed so that peasants could witness his kungfu prowess. what the blurred peasants saw was only chit-chatting this and that.

by doing so, saikongseng had unwittingly exposed his weakness to the paps' undercover agents who now mingled in plainsclothes among the peasants testing the water of their sentiments.

Pinky lee, the PM or PINK MINITOOT of the leegime had described the ground as sweet and ripe for some peasants butt-ramming sexsion. in order to ram them blur and into conning their votes and supports, a series of goodies were being planned to bribe them.

with the aid of the SHITS TIMES and MSM, (main stream media not his minitoot-sex-minitoot orgies with the peasants), the economic situation in peesailand was played about to cheery sweet success in their foreign investments and their ingenius financial planning acquiring great return$.

how true were such claims? well, tissues papers selling old uncles and aunties were proliferating. mundan low paying jobs were aplenty and were "compassionately" bestowed to the old folks. there were even highly paid peasant-like folks to come forth to praise the leegime's kind and generous effort offered to tide them over the bad patches.

how true were those stories....it left many baffled and asking themselves: HOW CUM I DIDN'T GET ANYTHING THAT $HIOK FROM THE LEEGIME??

so it leaves more to be seen and revealed as the GE drew nearer.
Going all out in the name of politics
By Faris – December 3rd, 2010


Goh Meng Seng, Secretary-general of NSP (Photo: Yahoo!).

Secretary-general of the National Solidarity Party, Goh Meng Seng, is going for broke in the next General Elections.

Literally putting his money where his mouth is, the 40-year-old sold his 4-room HDB flat in Serangoon North in September to fund his party’s election campaign plans for the next GE, due to be held by Feb 2012.

In an exclusive interview with Yahoo! Singapore, Mr Goh – who currently manages a retail business — said the decision to sell his only home in Singapore is nothing to shout about.

“Most of the time, leaders of the opposition parties will put up with some funds to support the whole party’s campaign. There is nothing new to it,” said Goh, who currently lives with his 81-year-old mother in Ang Mo Kio. Mr Goh, who currently manages a retail business also has a wife, 39, and daughter, 7, residing in Hong Kong.

While Mr Goh declined to reveal how much he sold his flat for, checks on several property websites show that the average price of a 4-room flat in Serangoon is around $400,000 to $450,000.

Proceeds from the sale, he said, would not be used to fund his own election campaigns and candidacy but will be directed to the coffers of the NSP “to sponsor a team” for election as well as support the party’s overall strategy.

The cost of running for elections is not cheap. For example, on Nomination Day for the last 2006 General Election (GE), each candidate had to fork out an election deposit of $13,500. This doesn’t include campaign costs incurred by the respective campaigns which could easily cost thousands of dollars.

Election rules also state that the deposit is to be forfeited if the candidate fails to obtain at least one-eighth or 12.5 per cent of the votes.

Goh’s involvement in local politics has spanned over 10 years. In 2006, while still with the Workers’ Party (WP), he was part of the team led by Ms Sylvia Lim which contested the Aljunied GRC.

While results saw the WP securing 43.91 per cent of the vote and the PAP claiming 56.09 per cent, that constituency’s election was marred by the controversy involving James Gomez, who claimed to have submitted the minority-race candidate application form required to stand as a candidate in a GRC.

CCTV footage later showed he had kept the form in his bag and Gomez was labelled a “liar” by MM Lee Kuan Yew.

Mr Goh left the party shortly after elections, joined the NSP and was elected the party’s secretary-general in February this year.

Touching on the GE, Mr Goh singled out three “hot-button” issues that would dominate campaigning after Nomination Day: health care, population and foreign talent policy.

In particular, he also highlighted public housing which “will no doubt be a key issue because it affects 80 per cent of the people”.

On the issue of healthcare, Mr Goh is calling for a more comprehensive health insurance because he feels the present coverage is insufficient.

“In ensuring effective insurance coverage for its citizens, the government should provide part of the premiums of health insurance which should also include non-working adults and children.”

And what if Mr Goh loses in his bid to contest the Tampines GRC?

After all, National Development Minister Mah Bow Tan has been the anchor MP in Tampines since 1988. In the last GE, the 5-man PAP team led by the Minister won a clear 68.51% majority of votes while the opposition team of Singapore Democratic Alliance (SDA) secured only 31.49% of votes.

“If I lose, then it will depend on whether my party needs me to stay on for the transitional period. There will inevitably be a transition for leadership change,” said Goh.

Goh also said he would decline to take up the Non-Constituency Members of Parliament scheme offered to losing opposition candidates with the highest votes.

In April this year, Parliament amended the scheme to increase the number of NCMP seats from six to nine. While NCMPs are allowed to participate in parliamentary debates and even raise motions in the House, they are unable to vote on constitutional changes. Based on the constitution, such powers will remain as privileges of an elected MP.

Mr Goh echoed the views of Hougang’s opposition Member of Parliament, Low Thia Khiang, who said he will not take up the NCMP seat if he loses in an election.

“I want the full power as an MP, fair and square. If I don’t win, I will not take the NCMP seat,” he said.

Signalling his intention that he’s ready to quit politics altogether if he loses, Goh said the time will come when he has to tough decisions.

“Personally, I have set my target right from 2001 where I am willing and prepared to spend 15 years of my life to try to contribute to the Singapore political cause as much as possible. After which, I will have to move on,” he said.
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